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jaymz
08-16-2011, 08:38 AM
Every time the garage got dampness in it, the Escape would miss, badly. After a couple days, everything would be OK. Well, finally got really bad and the wife took it to the local mechanic...good, competent guys. They diagnosed an ECU problem: seems the ECU has 3 circuits which control the spark plug grounding/ 2 plugs each. One was toast, so they sent it out for repair. After 4 weeks of total incompetence (people leaving for vacation w/o finishing the work, ete., etc.), it finally got back yesterday and now it seems they can't reprogram it! ARRRRGGGGGGGGG!

New one from Tousley is $528 + $100 core charge.

I can't believe haw hard it is to get people to just do their freakin' job these days.

So, now, if they can't reprogram it, what do I do? Any suggestions?

Jim

HELLFYR
08-16-2011, 11:00 AM
You gave them a working but damaged unit. They returned a totally non-functional unit. Sounds like grounds to go back to them and have THEM replace it. Unless you signed something to the effect that they are not liable... yada yada yada...

TF2v97SN
08-16-2011, 09:05 PM
i woulda bought a new or used one instead of getting it fixed, oh and i bet a dealer can program it!

drop top
08-16-2011, 09:50 PM
When mine did a similar thing it was coil packs.
Ended up replacing all 6 over the next three months. Was cutting out, couldn't accelerate up a hill, etc.

Not sure if my trouble is the same, but yours sounds familiar. Mine is a 2004 v6 with 180k

DNeinstadt
08-16-2011, 10:31 PM
I have also heard of coilpacks going bad. Believe it or not, I have about 50 of these at my house right now and you are welcome to borrow 6 of them to test... Just say the word (and remind me!) and you can borrow them to test out!

Dan

jaymz
08-17-2011, 07:00 AM
Well...chapter 2: they got it to reprogram and because of the ridiculous delays, they didn't charge me for the ECU repairs. BUT...now it's burned out another of the plug circuits. Guess I should have had them replace ALL the COPs. So...back the repair place again, another week-and-a-half, and $375 worth of COPs.

Jim

DNeinstadt
08-17-2011, 12:13 PM
JIM - I HAVE COPS, cancel them and get them from me...

drop top
08-17-2011, 01:07 PM
Jim,

I replaced 3 of mine myself and a little guidance from Brett.

Remember you can get some coils from Dan or new from a v ford for 10% over cost, I wanna say they were just over $100 each....

DNeinstadt
08-17-2011, 02:59 PM
Please let me know, I would happily lend them to you (all 6) to troubleshoot. I have a TON of these and they are all from low mileage cars..

Dan

TF2v97SN
08-17-2011, 09:30 PM
the problem dan is to trouble shoot is to remove the intake to install them, its worth putting new ones in perminantly.....

DNeinstadt
08-17-2011, 11:22 PM
I don't think it's that big of a problem at all, takes me about 10 minutes to get to the back ones (fronts are obviously easy)? The upper intake gasket is reusable? A few 8mm and a few 10mm bolts and it's out?

drop top
08-18-2011, 12:53 AM
I reused mine, I still have the new gaskets
Lol

jaymz
08-19-2011, 07:47 AM
Thanks for the offers, Guys. I am opting for brand new COPs because that's the only way they warranty the rebuilt ECU. Tried to get by cheap intiially, but got burned, so this time gonna let the shop do it their way. I am familiar with Ford COPs because of my Lightning and '97 F150 4X4, and have replaced all 6 plugs on the Escape, so I kinda know my way around the COP issues. So...will keep you posted if this ever gets fixed!

JIm

DNeinstadt
08-19-2011, 09:15 AM
Yikes, good luck but I think $375 for COP's would have covered another ECU!

Let me know if you need/want any parts for troubleshooting. I have a TON of '05 Escape 3L parts sitting around. :)

Dan

jaymz
08-20-2011, 07:20 AM
Yikes, good luck but I think $375 for COP's would have covered another ECU!

Let me know if you need/want any parts for troubleshooting. I have a TON of '05 Escape 3L parts sitting around. :)

Dan

Thanks for the offer. A new ECU with Tousley discount is $528+ $100 core charge. Then add in the COPs!!!!!!! Ford mandates replacement of all COPs when ECU fries like this because they claim the wrong ones were put in at the factory (why then did I get 101,000 mi out of the originals????). It's all BS, but I'm stuck.

Jim

DNeinstadt
08-20-2011, 08:36 AM
I don't know about you but I'd try to get one from the junkyard for $50 or something before I paid $600 for a new one but I'm cheap! :)
Dan